Lisa Paul AO PSM, previously secretary in federal government departments responsible for variously education and training, employment, and workplace relations, talks with SVA’s COO Susan Metcalf about the complexities and challenges of leadership.

Lisa shares her approach to leadership including: how to maintain a strong vision for a large department, how to motivate a large team amidst constant change, and her definition of successful leadership.

Lisa also discusses the personal rewards, as well as the loneliness of the role, and her views on the role of government and the social sector in innovation.